Cathy Duffy
Assistant Professor of Accounting and Finance at Carthage College
Do people consider taxes when deciding where to live? Should they?
I think most homeowners consider property taxes in deciding where to live, but beyond that, probably not so much. Yes, people should consider all of the taxes when deciding where to move - local income and sales taxes can really increase the cost of living.
How can state/local tax policy be used to attract new residents and stimulate growth?
Of course it would be great to say reduce taxes, but with reduced taxes come reduced public services. In terms of attracting new residents, perhaps special financing opportunities could be available to home owners and even renters.
Which states have particularly complicated tax rules for families?
I am not familiar with most states, but I do know that Wisconsin is relatively complicated (thank goodness for TurboTax) compared to Illinois.
How has the total amount families pay in state and local taxes changed as a result of the financial crisis?
I think states are cutting income tax rates but then add more sale and use taxes. The sales and use taxes tend to hit the low and middle income tax payers harder and therefore make the income gap wider. There is a lot of talk at the state level of cutting income tax rates, but as Kansas has proven, this doesn't help anyone in the long run.
Heidi Hylton Meier
Professor of Accounting at Cleveland State University
Do people consider taxes when deciding where to live? Should they?
I would say that for the most part, the answer is no. In my dealings with college graduates (almost all accounting and business students), when they receive job offers, that is rarely a consideration for them in accepting new employment, and many are attracted to areas with the highest taxes. However, on the other end of the spectrum, as many of my acquaintances are starting to retire, I would say that many of them do consider taxes as one determinant of where to live.
Should it be a consideration? Absolutely. However, what I also find is that even those people who do consider taxes, they do not look at the whole picture. In other words, income taxes are important, but that is only one tax and in many states/local areas that do not have income taxes, the property taxes make up for the revenue to the government and must be considered. So, in other words, people need to analyze their whole tax obligation, and that includes sales taxes, too. For example, currently in Pennsylvania, there is no sales tax on clothing or shoes, which can be a substantial savings.
How can state/local tax policy be used to attract new residents and stimulate growth?
Tax policy has long been used to attract businesses into targeted areas and to successfully stimulate economic growth. These models utilizing tax abatements and credits for businesses could be adapted for individuals -- it just seems that governments are more focused on attracting and retaining businesses rather than residents.
Hughlene Burton
Associate Professor of Accounting at University of North Carolina at Charlotte, Belk College of Business
Do people consider taxes when deciding where to live? Should they?
Most people do not consider taxes when they are deciding where to live. They usually are looking at neighborhoods, schools and other activities that are nearby. They should consider taxes. However, they need to consider income taxes, property taxes and sales taxes and most people don’t understand all of the taxes they have to pay. If they consider all of these taxes, they may be able to either afford a larger house or just have more spendable money.
For example, if you are moving to Charlotte to work, if you live in Union county you will pay considerably less in property taxes than if you live in Mecklenburg County and you are not that far away from the center of the city.
How can state/local tax policy be used to attract new residents and stimulate growth?
It is really hard to use tax policy to attract new residents because it is not good policy to give some individuals a break while not giving the current residents the same break, and if you reduce the tax rate for everyone then services will go down and new residents will not want to come. That is why you usually see state and local governments using tax policy to attract new corporations which hopefully will bring new jobs and residents to the area.
Which states have particularly complicated tax rules for families?
California has the most complicated tax system for everyone. New York is also very complicated.
How has the total amount families pay in state and local taxes changed as a result of the financial crisis?
The amount has gone down as family income has decreased. Because taxable income has gone down, the amount of income tax collected by the state went down. In addition, because families had less to spend, the amount of sales tax collected went down since the families just didn’t buy as much. That is why you see many areas increasing what they charge sales tax on and the rate of tax they assess.
Casey Martin Schwab
Assistant Professor of Accounting at University of Georgia, Terry College of Business
Do people consider taxes when deciding where to live? Should they?
Taxes are generally not the primary determinant of where a taxpayer chooses to live. However, ignoring state and local taxes can substantially reduce an individual’s after-tax income. For example, taxpayers living in Texas do not pay state income taxes while taxpayers living in New York City are subject to substantial state and city income taxes. Taxpayers also need to consider property, sales and various other forms of taxes.
Individuals are most likely to take taxes into account when there is substantial variation in taxes within a close geographic proximity. Living on a state border often creates such variation. For example, although the linked document is not current, it displays
variation in taxes across state lines. There is often substantial variation in income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes and even excise taxes (e.g., alcohol, cigarettes, etc.) across county and state borders.
How can state/local tax policy be used to attract new residents and stimulate growth?
In general, lower corporate state taxes make it less expensive for a company to operate within the state, which entices corporations to shift operations to that state. Similarly, lower individual state taxes make it less expensive for sole proprietorships and partnerships to operate. Lower individual taxes also make it less expensive for an individual to live in that state because the individual is left with higher levels of after-tax income and, presumably, greater after-tax purchasing power.
Note this discussion focuses exclusively on explicit taxes (e.g., taxes paid directly to a taxing authority). As more businesses move to a state to take advantage of the tax savings, implicit taxes can occur. From a business standpoint, if lower explicit taxes stimulate growth, the increased demand for productive inputs (e.g., labor, raw materials, etc.) can increase the cost of those inputs and lower firms’ pre-tax profits (or rates of return). Implicit taxes equal the reduction in the pre-tax return and, in the long run, often offset many of the benefits of lower explicit taxes. As a basic example to illustrate this point, if businesses move to a state in response to lower explicit taxes, there will be increased demand for the current labor force which will drive up labor costs (i.e., people get paid more as more companies compete for their services). Those increased labor costs can reduce a firm’s pre-tax profits (which is the definition of an implicit tax).
How has the total amount families pay in state and local taxes changed as a result of the financial crisis?
My response is a conjecture and not based on hard data. Given the financial crisis resulted in lower real property values, many families have lower property tax bills (assuming tax rates have stayed the same). Due to many states’ tax revenue shortfalls, I know some states have increased state income tax rates which will increase a family’s tax bill. I do not know if there have been many changes to state and local property tax rates, sales tax rates, excise tax rates, etc.
Haim Mozes
Professor of Accounting at Fordham University Gabelli School of Business
Do people consider taxes when deciding where to live? Should they?
People do not particularly like paying state income taxes. One of the reasons that Florida is so popular with retirees (besides the great weather 9 out of 12 months) is that there is no state income tax. Basically, if you have $250,000 taxable income, living in Florida gives you about $10,000 more after tax-dollars than living in New York. That savings is basically enough to pay the mortgage on a modest Florida retirement home! Financial-type high net worth individuals are also increasingly looking to establish their legal residence in Florida and Texas. A growing number of hedge funds list Florida as their place of business.
How can state/local tax policy be used to attract new residents and stimulate growth?
Here is a simple example: If I were governor of Michigan, I would suggest a bill that whoever moves into Detroit is exempt from Michigan state tax for 20 years. Likewise, Puerto Rico is providing strong tax incentives for investors to consider moving there. Among the wealthy investors attracted is John Paulson.
Which states have particularly complicated tax rules for families?
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recent report ranks states by tax complexity. Not surprisingly, New York State ranks near the top of this list (most complex).
How has the total amount families pay in state and local taxes changed as a result of the financial crisis?
States can raise money by raising taxes, by charging higher fees for services, or by providing less services. For example, public colleges can raise tuition, public transportation fares can increase, bridge and highway tolls can rise, public school funding can be reduced thereby leaving more costs for parents to pick up, parking ticket fines can double, etc. While tax rates have not increased too much, various revenue grabs have gotten more aggressive, and services and aid have been reduced. In sum, families are paying more and getting less in return.
Tim Gagnon
Professor of Taxation and Faculty Director of the Online MST Program at Northeastern University
Do people consider taxes when deciding where to live? Should they?
Most people do not use tax as the major decision for where they live for the large moves. But within a general area, the property taxes and state income taxes can be an issue. For example the MA vs. NH house location for people working in the Boston area and north of Boston is a consideration; since the commute is doable but the state income tax is extremely different (remembering that any income earned in MA still has MA income tax). Or the choice of a house in one town or another could be dependent on local property taxes — I can be close to the town border but pay less. I am not sure that taxes should be the biggest part of the decision — schools, location or commute may be bigger issues.
How can state/local tax policy be used to attract new residents and stimulate growth?
Policy can be used to make a "tax friendly" environment in the local property tax rates, income tax rates or even death taxes for residents. Reducing or capping increases can make the location attractive to residents and ultimately businesses, since employee satisfaction can affect work satisfaction and ultimately employee turnover.
Also, happy residents mean more local businesses to support the residents and "friendly" tax environments mean more willingness to open businesses which may attract business from other locations and willingness to relocate to the area.
Which states have particularly complicated tax rules for families?
Every taxpayer tells me their locality's tax rules are confusing and complicated so I am not sure which states are worst.
How has the total amount families pay in state and local taxes changed as a result of the financial crisis?
The property taxes have not reduced and may have been raised (by overrides) to accommodate the reduction in values. Income taxes receipts go up and down based on the economy but the needs for additional revenues appear to change as basic needs are met by the state and local governments.
Arnold L. Berman
Professor of Accounting at Pace University
Do people consider taxes when deciding where to live? Should they?
Your perception that people make state choices based, in part, on tax issues is accurate. This accounts for a lot of individuals moving to Washington, Florida and Nevada and New Hampshire. In reality however, there is a lot of misinformation which tends to confuse a number of individuals.
For example, someone who’s income consists primarily of NYS Pensions will find that (except for the non-taxing states mentioned above), New York is the most favorable income tax state for them.
We are asked all the time to compare the NYS Tax with that of the surrounding states, as well as how much would be “saved” by moving to, say Florida. The bottom line for me is that unless people have a lot of income subject to tax, quality of life is far more important than a few dollars saved. And for individuals that have lots of money and lots of income, then state taxes are really a non-economic issue.
Your article can consider those states such as NY and CA that allow itemized deductions to reduce taxable income from those states, NJ, CT that for the most part are gross income states. There is also the issue that for taxpayers in the AMT, state taxes when paid are not deductible. And there are issues as to being in several states and avoiding residency status in one of them (the Derek Jeter situation.) I would also venture to say that it is not so much the state income tax that scares people from our area, it is the overall cost of living, real estate taxes etc.
Ge Bai
Assistant Professor of Accounting at Washington and Lee University, Williams School of Commerce, Economics, and Politics
Do people consider taxes when deciding where to live? Should they?
I believe they do and they should. Taxes determine the amount of disposal income for individual taxpayers. Just as people should consider income and intangible benefits to be received (e.g., quality of the school district etc.) when deciding where to live, they should also consider the cost of living there, one important factor of which is the amount of tax they will have to pay.
How can state/local tax policy be used to attract new residents and stimulate growth?
I am a believer of fiscal conservatism and supply-side economics. One good thing state/local governments can do to attract talented residents and simulate growth is to cut taxes, which will reduce the barrier and enhance the incentive for people to produce, innovate, and invest.
It is more beneficiary to leave wealth to individuals who have earned them than to the government, because individuals, in totality, process more skill and knowledge than governments, to determine how to best use their wealth. They will not let their wealth sit there doing nothing, instead, they will invest, expand, and innovate, which brings more jobs, wealth, and talented residents to the community. This virtuous circle will bring more tax revenues to the state/local government, not less.
Linda McKissack Beale
Professor of Law at Wayne State University
Do people consider taxes when deciding where to live? Should they?
For most Americans, the major factors determining where they live are where they get a job; how well the job pays; and what the schools and communities where they have job offers are like. Additional factors include what others say about quality of life in that city and state, and whether they have family and friends in that area.
Most people don’t decide where to live based on taxes, in part because they usually don’t have full information about complex state and local tax regimes or about the kinds of services paid for by those living in that state and local taxes. It is mainly the most affluent Americans in the top quintile of the income distribution, who have great flexibility in where they live and work, who can cherry-pick their state of residence for tax policies (and politicians) that are favorable to them.
Should they?
Probably not. Taxes do vary from state to state and locality to locality, but there are a wide range of types of taxes (state sales and excise taxes, business taxes, state and local income taxes, and property taxes, to name a few) that make any definitive comparison of one locale to another quite difficult. Reports about “average” taxes paid by a resident of a particular state are meaningless and less than useful in this regard, since averages include the extraordinarily high-income and those in poverty. Most can’t use those averages to understand how their particular situations might be affected.
How can state/local tax policy be used to attract new residents and stimulate growth?
The attempts to use state and local tax policy to “attract new residents and stimulate growth” — which lately seems to mean cutting taxes or offering tax breaks to particular industries - are likely to be unproductive. States like Kansas that tout large tax cuts frequently end up in dire budget situations where they do not have enough revenue coming in to pay for important infrastructure and education. People do notice when a state’s roads are full of potholes (just look at Michigan as an example) or when a state revenue gap results in prison overcrowding, cuts to schools and universities, and drastic reductions in the many other services on which citizens depend.
Which states have particularly complicated tax rules for families?
States that have refused to allow same-sex marriages create a complex tangle of tax and other rules that comprise a hurdle for same-sex couples living in the state. States that don’t even recognize same-sex marriages from other states make it even harder, especially if a married couple has adopted children: those families who were able to file joint state and federal tax returns in their prior residence now have to prepare separate state returns, among other burdens.
How has the total amount families pay in state and local taxes changed as a result of the financial crisis?
Workers in many families slipped out of employment for long periods of time or into much lower paying jobs than they had before the Great Recession. As a result, many states took in less tax revenue and had fewer resources to provide the broader safety net that was needed. This caused a spiral of less demand and further job losses.
In some states, such as Kansas, political groups successfully lobbied for tax cuts anyway -- even claiming that tax cuts would bring in more revenue and make the tax-cutting state better off. The benefit of those state tax cuts likely went to bigger businesses and individuals in the higher-income brackets, while most ordinary Americans suffered the loss of needed services and support during especially difficult times for families.
Vada Lindsey
Associate Professor of Law and Associate Dean for Enrollment, Marquette University Law School
Do people consider taxes when deciding where to live? Should they?
Undoubtedly, the level of state taxation is an important factor in determining where people choose to reside. If all things are equal, many people will choose to avoid paying high taxes. In making this determination, they must consider all types of taxes, including income, sales, property and estate taxes.
States with the highest state/local taxes have below average income from other sources. Conversely, many states with low levels of taxation derive a very large percentage of revenue from sources other than sales, income and property taxes. People must also understand that the level of taxation varies within a state. For example, property tax levels in states vary based on which city or county property is located. However, people must consider factors other than the level of taxation. For example, many retirees decide to move to warmer climates. Other people choose to live near relatives or they relocate based on job opportunities. People also consider the overall cost of living in a city or state, especially the cost of housing, and they must consider fees other than taxes, such as the cost of registering vehicles.
Should people consider the level of taxation in deciding where to live? While people should consider the level of taxation, there are other factors that are equally as important as taxes. These factors include the school system, distance to nearby cities, climate, jobs, proximity to an airport, cost of housing, access to good medical services, etc.
How can state/local tax policy be used to attract new residents and stimulate growth?
States need to be cautious in using tax policy to attract new residents and stimulate growth. Many states have attempted to spur economic development by using tax credits and property tax exemptions. There are limitations on the use of these types of incentives. For example, the businesses receiving these tax incentives may relocate prior to the state recouping the lost tax revenue. Indeed, there is plenty of empirical data establishing that states lose revenue when they use tax incentives to encourage businesses to relocate to the state because the businesses frequently relocate before the states can recoup a return on their investment.
Which states have particularly complicated tax rules for families?
The Supreme Court’s determination that the Defense to Marriage Act (DOMA) is unconstitutional complicates the tax rules for families in states that do not recognize same-sex marriages. While the case means that same-sex couples can file joint returns at the federal level, the couple won’t be able to file a joint return at the state level in the states that don’t recognize same-sex marriages. Other types of taxes are also impacted by the inconsistent treatment. For example, in the estate tax area, an unlimited marital deduction is allowed. Therefore, states that have an estate tax but don’t recognize same-sex marriages add complexity to families because there will be inconsistent treatment at the federal and state levels.
Discussion
Alaska
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Hawaii
Illinois
Indiana
Kentucky
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
Montana
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
Vermont
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
As for comparing Connecticut to Arizona, Arizona is a "Right to Work State" which guarantees that no person can be compelled, as a condition of employment, to join or not to join, or to pay dues to a labor union. Connecticut is not a right to work state.
Interestingly it appears that the states with higher taxes, fiscal instability, have higher unemployment rates, political corruption and unsustainable revenue to liabilities - face bankruptcy have unions entrenched deeply into the public sector.… read more
Do you have any thoughts of your own or are they the intellectual properties of your "Professor"? I noticed you mentioned unions (really they are a "business" and are there as "for profit". As such you enter into an agreement with them and they negotiate your wages, benefits, etc as part of the collective bargaining agreement with the employer(s) and now you the member pay dues for this service to the union or i.e. company.) are you pro-union? If so please share your thoughts or your Professor's thoughts.
I think they have priced themselves out of almost every free market in the private sector, except the public sector where they get to victimize a captive audience "the tax payer"! It appears they are doing a great job bankrupting Illinois, California, Minnesota, Michigan (Detroit ;) ), Ohio, Indiana, New York New Jersey well any blue state. I personally think they should be banned from the public sector or any projects, schools, etc that are funded with my tax dollars. That is my opinion on unions as a citizen of the United States of America, a tax payer and registered voter. I also think they should be called companies, not labor unions as they portray themselves, standing against corporate America for the working man. There is plenty of agencies at a state and federal level protecting the working man without communism and these unions are the greatest obstacle to a merit based work environment and a healthy economy.… read more
And since all these numbers are incorrect, there is no way to logically weight them on a cost of living index.
Strike three.
Where I live, we have a taxable "value", taxable "rate" and also a tax "multiplier" on real estate. These are put in place by local government to confuse the tax payer and keep things as difficult to understand as much as possible.
We have a two bedroom home with a marketable selling price of maybe $400,000 and our annual real estate tax is over $10,000. We appeal our taxes every re-assessment.
In order to appeal a tax bill, one must literally hire a tax attorney who know which hoop to jump through and at the precise time to jump.
Basically, it's called corruption. I'm going to go on record and say, it's pretty certain the author did not take in to account the expenses of hiring attorneys each re-assessment.
I'll give this report a thumbs-up.… read more
I live in WA state and my property tax alone is $6800 for a house valued in the $500K range. And as anyone who lives in Seattle knows, $500K is nothing extravagant.
This data is 100% meaningless.
Do you realize your study "ranks" Nebraska as the third highest taxed state, while most legitimate studies rank them twentyfifth?
According to your study, as my right wing wack job web site is thrilled to point out:
" CA taxes 150% higher than Washington state’s — to what benefit?"
Technically, what your study says is that the "average taxpayer" in California, as defined by your profile, pays about 150% more (or 2 1\2 TIMES) what that "average taxpayer" would pay in Washington.
In MOST OTHER CURRENT STUDIES, the average, or per capita tax in California is about TEN percent higher than Washington state. Not 150.
Yes, I read your methodology. I understand why there is a difference in the data. I don't see ANY advantage in your methodology over that of TaxFoundation or ITEP.
If you feel there is some advantage, explain it. And, please, make it CRYSTAL CLEAR to us and the media how and why your study is different.
You contacted the Dallas Morning News because they supposedly made an error in reference to your story. They pulled that item from their website.
There are dozens of sites, including MAJOR news outlets, citing your study and implying that the figures are average or per capita or median tax burdens for those states.
If you have an ounce of integrity, you will straighten out this misinformation instead of badgering Jack White or Patrick Hughes for questioning YOUR cock-up.
With all due respect.… read more
Stop spamming this thread by repeating the same thing over and over again. As @WalletHub told you below, if a news outlet misrepresented the info just contact them yourself. You made your point multiple times now - please stop sounding like a broken record or @WalletHub just block him....… read more
No, I did not realize you had nothing to do with this study.
I received an email from Wallethub saying David responded to my comment. It closed with "regards, the Wallethub team"
So, yes, I assumed you were with Wallethub.
I clearly understand that different methodologies produce different results.
I thought I had answered the ITEP question. Their methodology is on page 129 of their latest report. I doubt you can access their raw numbers. It is a huge computerized database.
You may think this methodology is sound. I disagree.
Regardless, in the media, this data is universally being referred to as "average", or " median", or "per capita" tax burden; which it is not. If one or two news agencies made that mistake, I agree, contact them. And I have, wherever possible.
If EVERY news source gets it wrong, I'm sorry, Wallethub was negligent in clearly explaining the study, and should correct it.
They lost no time in calling the Dallas Morning News about a disagreement on a quote. The Dallas News pulled the article.
Why not call up The McCook Daily Gazette and say "your March 24 article states:
" Nebraska was ranked 49 of 51 states including the District of Columbia with residents paying an average of $9450 annually in state and local taxes."
This is an incorrect representation of our data. Residents do NOT pay an average of $9450. That figure applies ONLY to those residents who fit our specific profile. And ONLY those profiled taxpayers are ranked 49 out of 51. Please correct your article. Call us if you have any questions.
Regards,
Your Wallethub Team
See how easy that was.
Since it bothers you, I will not reply to any of your posts in the future.… read more
Please don't do another study like this next year.
You created way more heat than light.
Right wing wackos (mis)used your data to attack Democrats and unions.
And you can't, or won't, back up your methodology or correct the erroneous use of the results.
On the bright side, you did get tons of free publicity. Live with it.
"In summary, we find that areas that provide more local public goods and larger tax credits for low income families tend to have higher levels of upward mobility. However, segregation and inequality are much stronger and more robust predictors of the variation in intergenerational mobility than differences in local tax and expenditure policies."
The first paragraph of this article refers to an executive summary of a report by the Equality of Opportunity Project (you might even say it plagiarizes it).
http://obs.rc.fas.harvard.edu/chetty/website/v2/Geography%20Executive%20Summary%20and%20Memo%20January%202014.pdf
This article makes it sound like the Equality of Opportunity Project touted local taxes as some sort of major economic barrier.
Here is their tax findings: "We find modest correlations between upward mobility and local tax and government expenditure policies" they go on to note that some of this correlation is positive: "[A]reas with higher local tax rates, which are predominantly used to finance public schools, have higher rates of mobility."
That is what we call a positive correlation: more local taxes, more mobility. That is the exact opposite of what this article is claiming.
In reality, they found that the greatest threats to economic mobility were 1. Segregation (affected opportunity of blacks and whites), 2. Inequality, 3. Quality Schools, 4. Social Capitol, and 5. Family Structure. These are worst in many of the states where this article claims you will do the best.… read more
Further, this very median income data is flawed for a "taxpayer" analysis because "taxpayers" pay taxes on wealth and not income.… read more
Stay on their case. The misinformation is unbelievable, and going viral on the web. Once on the web it develops a life of its own. It will never die.
Which is NOT what this study measures. From FoxBusiness:
"The Big Apple is home to the most burdensome taxes. The average state and local taxes were $9,718 for New Yorkers, 39% higher than the national median.
$9,718 is Wallethub figure. 39% is Wallethub figure. but $9,718 is NOT "average state tax"
It is the computed tax for you "profile". Get it right.… read more
Are you a layed of union worker, or do you work for a union? Do you have any political affiliation with the Democratic Party?
As for comparing Connecticut to Arizona, Arizona is a "Right to Work State" which guarantees that no person can be compelled, as a condition of employment, to join or not to join, or to pay dues to a labor union. Connecticut is not a right to work state.
Interestingly it appears that the states with higher taxes, fiscal instability, have higher unemployment rates, political corruption and unsustainable revenue to liabilities - face bankruptcy have unions entrenched deeply into the public sector.… read more
" The average family pays almost $7,000 in state and local taxes per year."
Oh dear lord in heaven, PLEASE read the methodology for this study.
The average family does NOT pay $7,000 in state and local taxes.
Those are the taxes allegedly paid by a SPECIFIC hand picked representative taxpayer.
One who makes about $66,000 a year
Has a house worth $174,000
A car worth about $17,000
And several other criteria listed on wallethub website.
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The TaxFoundation released a report about the same time as Wallethub. The national per capita state and local tax burden is $4,217 , not $7,000.
The differences in the ACTUAL per capita rates between states is not NEARLY as great as your figures. Check TaxFoundation data.
The data from Wallethub compares ONLY those taxpayers meeting the specific criteria.
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Wallethub, am I wrong?… read more
Yes, please. This report has been misinterpreted worldwide web wide.
It's like copy and paste without reading....or thinking.
http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2014/03/wallethub-state-by-state-tax-ranking-has-faulty-premise.html/
We will be contacting them to issue a correction. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
Didn't do her homework either.
Will you be contacting her for a correction, also?
I can give you a substantial list of websites that mangled your data.
It's like an internet boil. It won't go away. It will just keep growing until you lance it.
Will you be publishing a retraction?
TaxFoundation, ITEP, and others show California about 10 to 12% higher in PER CAPITA tax
Please explain the huge discrepancy.
Your methodology, as I understand it, develops a profile of an "average" taxpayer nationwide, then determines what that person would pay in each state. This distinction seems lost in almost every article I have seen, and the difference is HUGE in many cases. Please read this article, and tell me if it accurately conveys the meaning you intended.
http://calwatchdog.com/2014/03/21/ca-taxes-150-higher-than-washington-state-to-what-benefit/
Second, your profile of an average taxpayer is difficult to compare to other studies because the information seems incomplete. Specifically, is this average taxpayer single, or married with children.
The Washington DC study specifically cites a family (of three, or four, I don't have it in front of me), at several income levels, compared in most major cities. As I said, I don't have the study handy, but I don't recall a difference in the approximate $65,000 income range anywhere near what the CalWatchdog article cites between California and Washington.
ITEP shows, for an income of $66,000, an approximate California state/local tax burden of $5,000 ( more, if you ignore the federal offset. ). For Washington state, they show a HIGHER tax burden in this quintile, while your data shows $9,509 for California and $3,823 for Washington, a huge difference.
"Who pays? A Distributional Analysis of the Tax Systems in all 50 States ....fourth edition "
Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy.
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I live in California. My income is over $65,000. My house is worth well over $175,000. And, as it happens, I drive a three year old Camry, and I am certain I spent nowhere near $9,000 in state and local taxes. Probably closer to the $5,000 in the ITEP study.
I actually only bought 30 bottles of beer last year, rather than 30 gallons, but I don't think that would account for the discrepancy.
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Primarily, I think if you search and read some of the many articles citing your study, you will see more confusion and misunderstanding than anything else.
I don't know how useful your premise of comparing the "average" taxpayer nationwide is, but if you use it, you should make it crystal clear what it means, and what it DOESNT mean.
TaxFoundation says
" The state-local tax burdens of each of the fifty states’ residents are quite close to one another. This is logical considering state and local governments fund similar activities such as public education, transportation, prison systems, and health programs, often under the same federal mandates. Furthermore, tax competition between states can often make dramatic differences in the level of taxation between similar, nearby states unsustainable in the long run."
Note, they are referring primarily to the "per capita" tax , the way most of us compare various states. They show typical state local burdens in the range of 7 to 12% of income. We all know that there is a huge difference from state to state depending on the level of income. Coincidentally, an excellent example of this is between California and Washington, mentioned in the CalWatchdog article. If the ITEP study is near correct, the highest one percent of earners in WA pays only 2.8%, while the lowest quintile pays over 16%.
I'm not sure what to think of the fourth quintile in CA and WA, where your data seems to show a huge difference ($66,000 income range) and ITEP shows much closer burdens.… read more
http://obs.rc.fas.harvard.edu/chetty/mobility_geo.pd
maybe because a lot of taxes go to schools.
So if you have high taxes, grin and bear it--it's good for the kids!